Thursday, October 30, 2008

Obama On Separation of State and Church

Politics can be a tricky thing, especially when you are a Christian. It is always difficult to maintain the Two Kingdom theory. The temptation to call the United States a Christian nation has always been a part of the Republic's psyche.

Think of yourself coming on the Mayflower to a "new land". Arriving here, you might think this land was the Promised Land. The Laws of this land have mostly acknowledged that there is a Creator who demands morality from His creatures. Many of our founding institutions were distinctly Christian such as Harvard and Yale. The Supreme Court has even said as much.

Now keep in mind, as I critique Obama's answer to Rick Warren, that I have my problems with the Religious Right. Religious Conservatives have done exactly what Theological Liberalism has done in the past. Once we embrace ethics and morality as the Gospel, once we stop preaching Christ from all of Scripture, once we stop seeing the separation of church and state, we become what we have despised in Liberalism. Nevertheless, I would like to offer some points about Barack's statement at Saddleback.


"I am my brother's keeper."
Barack Obama in a highly-touted speech at Saddleback Church on World AIDS Day, Dec. 1, 2oo6.

"I think America’s greatest moral failure in my lifetime has been that we still don’t abide by that basic precept in Matthew that whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do for me. And notion of — that basic principle applies to poverty. It applies to racism and sexism. It applies to, you know, not having — not thinking about providing ladders of opportunity for people to get into the middle class. I mean, there is a pervasive sense I think that this country is wealthy and powerful as we still don’t spend enough time thinking about the least of these."
Barack Obama on the moral failure of not addressing the least of these, particularly those in poverty at the Saddleback Forum, August 16, 2008.

1) Barack cites Matthew's Gospel. Now is Barack citing Matthew's Gospel as an authoritative source? Is this his personal religious belief? If so, what if I don't agree with Matthew's Gospel? Is this not Barack forcing his religion upon me?

2) The text Barack refers to is a text on the final day of judgment. It will take place at the Second coming of Christ. Is it not obvious that Jesus is separating true Christians from those who are not by the demonstration of their works?

Since this is based on an individual level, why is Barack applying this to the State? surely Jesus is referring to individual works? Barack might respond by saying that Nations are people that are being judged as a group. But again, individuals are separated out from among the nations. How does this even begin to make sense?

Is Barack going to save me by forcing me to do good works with my local government?

3) Is Jesus really teaching the "economic justice" Barack keeps referring to? Where does Jesus command that States provide ladders for people to climb out of poverty? As the Baptist Confession says, the only duty of the State is to provide a defense of the nation and protection among citizens from murderers and such.

Why is Barack not giving away his paycheck to those members of his family that live in poverty? Is it not obvious that Barack is lying and a hypocrite?

4) Is the State the Church? It seems that for Barack, he finds no church to put his religious beliefs into practice. Is he not making the State governement the church.

In the past, Governments would tax people to support the State church. Our form of government has abolished such a notion. Is not Barack's policies simply returning us to a government that taxes people to fund a church? Is it not even worse than before since for Barack the State is the church!?

5) "I mean, there is a pervasive sense I think that this country is wealthy and powerful as we still don’t spend enough time thinking about the least of these."

a) Who is Barack to bring his judgment upon us? Who is he to take his personal religiouss views and force them upon the rest of us.

b) On top of him forcing his views upon the rest of us, he is simply lying. America is the most giving nation in the world. For him to say otherwise requires proof since the evidence is overwhelming. Not only are there government programs that give money away for just about everything, the American people give to charities in huge amounts. Barack is just repeating Left-wing nonsense.

6) "It applies to, you know, not having — not thinking about providing ladders of opportunity for people to get into the middle class."

The race industry will never end. I have watched foreigners become naturalized citizens of this country. The statistics show that Asian immigrants are running rings around the rest of us through hard work. They are able to use their freedom and liberty to rise above their prior economic woes.

For Barack to use his sickening idea of religion to bring about policies that would not bring equal opportuinity but equal outcome is just a Stalinist idea.

7) The idea that God commands everyone to be equal in every way assumes a religious view of God that is simply unworkable in reality. It denies God's providence in bringing about challenges and calamities in our personal lives that may knock us down.

Let me offer an example. We as a nation believe it is fundamental that all men have a right to life. This only means that the government and private citizens do not have the power or authority to take my life from me. It doesn't mean that government owes me a long and healthy life. Only God could even begin to provide such a life, and it is His choosing.

I am certain one could sit here and punch holes in all of the silly thinking of the Radical Left. If you are voting for Obama, keep in mind that he defys all of the Protestant confessions on the role of government (as many on the right do). We have entered a dangerous time when Americans do not understand their liberty that so many have fought and died for.

The beauty about being an American is that one does not have to be a Christian to live here. There is a separation of church and state. However, the One does need to know our form of government and how it is to function. This Obama and the Radical Left may never understand. They simply want a revolution to overthrow the institutions that have made this the greatest city of man the world has ever seen.

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