Sunday, October 08, 2006

Caners Silently Give In To O'Donnell?

Update to the Update10/10:

I waited till this morning thinking surely there must be more to Ergun Caner's response than this. Read Ergun's statement on the situation here. I have read it and have been waiting for further details. You know...things like facts. Calling Dr. White a whiner sounds like whining. Dr. White has fully responded to Caner's "statement" here. Dr. Ascol has responded here.

As you will see, the Caners simply are not able to withstand the truth and the facts. Brett O'Donnell may be a great college debate coach, but he plainly has no idea what he is doing in this arena, or he knows exactly what he is doing and is covering for the Caners. The playground bullies have been demonstrated to not be worth the hype. Given time, substance triumphs over image.


UPDATE! 10/9/06:

Dr. White has reported the President of Liberty Seminary as saying,

Calvinist Debate Cancelled by Hyper-calvinist James White backs out of the debate. Refused to submit to moderator rules. Details will follow tonight.

Ok, so now we know that they are sticking with their bold faced lie. Now the curious question is how are they going to twist the facts. Since details are supposedly coming tonight, hopefully we won't have to wait too much longer. Perhaps they are going to get some assistance from the Clinton Warroom?

I decided to go back and read Ergun Caner's brief bio at this web page. Notice it says:

Caner has debated Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and Baha'i over sixty times at universities and colleges. He has written fourteen books, including When Worldviews Collide (LifeWay 2005), on the subject of Global Apologetics and defending the Christian faith.

Has anyone ever seen these supposed debates. It is my understanding Dr. White has asked for tapes of these debates and never managed to get a copy. If you have heard him do these debates, please inform the rest of us. So far, I haven't seen any ability in this man to do what he claims he is able to do.

The real irony in all of this is that Liberty University has a first rate debate team. Last April it was reported they won "All Three National Policy Debate Rankings Championships". Yet their President of the Seminary clearly is out of his own league. It is simply shameful that the debate team's director, Brett O'Donnell, has sided with these men and blemished Liberty's name.

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I wondered what kind of politics at Liberty University would determine the rational for overthrowing the agreed to terms of the debate over Calvinism and Baptists. Well Tom Ascol cited Brett O'Donnell on his Blog as saying:


"Given that the two sides cannot agree on the terms of the debate in a spirit of compromise he [Dr. Falwell] concurs that the debate should not occur and therefore there will not be a debate on October 16 agreeing with the decision that was announced on Friday by Dr. White."

I am going to say it. Not only have these people been ridiculous, but this is a bold face lie. You can read more from Dr. White's Blog here. I simply cannot conclude that O'Donnell was acting on his own to make sure this debate did not happen. It is clear that the other side made sure this wasn't going to happen.

I have been following the ministries of Tom Ascol and Dr. White for years now. I think I may say with some level of certainty, that these men have the upmost respect for truth and honor. I simply do not see the same with Falwell, O'Donnell or the Caners.

I have family members that simply refuse to go back to church due to poor behavior by so-called pastors. I truly am disappointed that Christian men behave in such a fashion. It makes my duty to witness for Christ all the more difficult.

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