tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9504248.post115324869640130651..comments2023-10-29T04:52:56.730-07:00Comments on Salt & Light: Does the Social Gospel Save?Howard Fisherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07131678953403450197noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9504248.post-1153333477742254392006-07-19T11:24:00.000-07:002006-07-19T11:24:00.000-07:00Great question. I was wondering if someone would t...Great question. I was wondering if someone would take me to task on this post.<BR/><BR/>There has always been discussions among Calvinists as to how much one has to believe in order to be considered orthodox. There are some (thank God not many) that would say if you are not a 5-Pointer, then you do not have the Gospel.<BR/><BR/>I remember not even understanding the Gospel clearly as I should have, yet I was a believer and was saved. I had no idea what the Substitutionary Atonement meant and I certainly had no idea what the doctrine of Election was. Yet, over the years as I study the Scriptures, I have strive to grow in my understanding of God's Word.<BR/><BR/>I do however think there is a point when one fully embraces Arminianism and becomes unorthodox. Most Evangelicals probably are simply inconsistent in the view of the Gospel and therefore are not really either Calvinists or Arminians. They are simply inconsistent with either view.<BR/><BR/>King as you read was not a Trinitarian. He clearly denied Substitutionary Atonement. He denied the full Deity of Christ. This throws him completely in any camp but Christian.<BR/><BR/>So to answer your original question, would many evangelicals deny substitutionary atonement as King did. They might in their answers sound like King at some points, but I think when forced to be consistent, true believers will be teachable and certainly not define the Atonement as King did.<BR/><BR/>King sounds like he had more of a Governmental approach to the atonement. Most evangelicals would have no idea what that means.<BR/><BR/>God BlessHoward Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07131678953403450197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9504248.post-1153290836510927692006-07-18T23:33:00.000-07:002006-07-18T23:33:00.000-07:00Would you say that Dr. King's denial of Christ's s...Would you say that Dr. King's denial of Christ's substitionary atonement is similar or the same as modern evangelicalism's? If so, in what way? I guess i am wondering if you were able to ask both of them would they say that they don't believe it - or would they simply subvert the actual meaning with fancy talk to retain their orthodox image?TheFilmCritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09676091951147178884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9504248.post-1153290639330353012006-07-18T23:30:00.000-07:002006-07-18T23:30:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.TheFilmCritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09676091951147178884noreply@blogger.com